Best non oily coffee beans for superautomatic

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rooms222Posts: 742Joined: Fri Feb 22, 2013 2:12 pm

Re: Non oily coffee beans for automatic espresso machine

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Post by rooms222 » Sun Apr 18, 2021 10:58 am

We have found the Lavazza beans do not get a bitter, old taste when opened as quickly as random brands at Costco. We don't mind the adventure of trying an unknown brand at $4.97/32 ounces at Costco, but noticed that that is too much coffee once opened, even putting in an "airtight" container.

Lavazza is now having its own sales through its own seller account on Amazon. These sales are sometimes cheaper than the Amazon price, and sometimes not. You have to buy two bags from their seller account to get free shipping.

Also, Italy's Best Coffee is having a sale, and here are the details of an extra promo code:
https://slickdeals.net/f/14957678-italy ... rchV2Algo1

In an effort to keep the coffee fresh when opening a big bag, we have purchased one of these:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Planetary-Desi ... 4694969351

This is the seller's ebay store and found it to be the cheapest place to get one after being recommended by someone on here.
The one we got did not have any scratches, dents, or promotional logos on it.

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KlangFoolPosts: 27078Joined: Sat Oct 11, 2008 12:35 pm

Re: Non oily coffee beans for automatic espresso machine

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Post by KlangFool » Thu Oct 13, 2022 9:26 am

retire14 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 18, 2021 5:48 am We have a super automatic espresso machine. It is recommended that we avoid beans roasted with oil as they could clog the inner mechanism. We have been using Lavazza non oily beans, but are ready for a cheaper alternative. From the look, all beans at Costco are oily. Anyone has a recommendation? Thank you.

retire14,

Where do you buy your coffee? How much did you pay?

Check out this place.

https://www.wholelattelove.com/collecti ... zza-coffee

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JS-ElcanoPosts: 734Joined: Wed Jun 10, 2020 7:29 pm

Re: Non oily coffee beans for automatic espresso machine

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Post by JS-Elcano » Thu Oct 13, 2022 9:53 am

retire14 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 18, 2021 5:48 am We have a super automatic espresso machine. It is recommended that we avoid beans roasted with oil as they could clog the inner mechanism. We have been using Lavazza non oily beans, but are ready for a cheaper alternative. From the look, all beans at Costco are oily. Anyone has a recommendation? Thank you.

I have never heard of coffee beans being roasted "with" oil. Whether beans look oily (shiny) or not (dull) depends on how long they are being roasted and at which temperature. The oil inside the coffee bean only comes out (and makes the beans shiny) after second crack which happens after roasting at higher temps/longer. After first crack (a pop you hear) oil doesn't come out yet, those are the light or medium roast beans which are not shiny. You have to keep roasting until second crack for the oil to come out, which is why the dark, French roasts are oily looking beans.

So, just get a bean roasted to a point before second crack and you are fine (medium roast).

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mkcModeratorPosts: 1952Joined: Wed Apr 17, 2013 2:59 pm

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Post by mkc » Thu Oct 13, 2022 11:23 am

langleybc wrote: ↑Thu Oct 13, 2022 9:41 am

mkc wrote: ↑Thu Oct 13, 2022 9:33 am

langleybc wrote: ↑Thu Oct 13, 2022 9:22 am Bought a Miele superautomatic, I still have some Illy dark roasted Ground coffee. Is it okay to put in there? Don't want to waste it.

You shouldn't run already-ground coffee through a grinder. It can clog the grinder and you can end up with a lot more "sludge".

No I meant to put in the bypass chute.

You would be fine, then. The surface oil on darkly-roasted beans in an issue for the grinder, not the brewing process.

The oils from darkly roasted beans cause residue build up on the burrs, which in turn both goes rancid (bad taste) and attracts residue, causing wear and clogging.

Some of the low-to-no-oil spotting beans we have used for espresso (note that we favor chocolate, caramel, and roasted nut flavors, not brightness or citrus in our espresso) are

Red Bird Guatemala Antigua Bella Carmona
Red Bird Brazil Sweet Blue
Tony's Espresso Classico
Tony's Sugar Bee Espresso
8th and Roast Sunflower Espresso Blend

Tony's Espresso Noir gives better crema than Classico or Sugar Bee, but has oil spotting so I wouldn't use it in a superautomatic.

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Best non oily coffee beans for superautomatic

VulcanPosts: 2388Joined: Sat Apr 05, 2014 11:43 pm

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Post by Vulcan » Thu Oct 13, 2022 1:14 pm

rooms222 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 18, 2021 10:58 am We have found the Lavazza beans do not get a bitter, old taste when opened as quickly as random brands at Costco. We don't mind the adventure of trying an unknown brand at $4.97/32 ounces at Costco, but noticed that that is too much coffee once opened, even putting in an "airtight" container.

For best espresso, coffee, once opened, needs to be frozen or used within days (and within minutes of grinding).

Lavazza is good coffee (I like their Super Crema), and I gave up on any non-Italian beans.

But in my book the best Italian espresso blend is Musetti Cremissimo.

https://musetti.us/library/blends/cremissimo/

It can be found on Amazon occasionally. It's more expensive than Lavazza, but it's a whole different level.

Here is my parting shot:

Best non oily coffee beans for superautomatic

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Best non oily coffee beans for superautomatic

snackdogPosts: 1991Joined: Wed Nov 12, 2014 4:57 am

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Post by snackdog » Thu Oct 13, 2022 5:35 pm

For best results, buy the freshest local 12-oz bag of beans you can, roasted "light" or "medium". There should be a roasting date on the bag and one week or younger is your target. Then, use them within a week or two at the most. You will taste the degradation over time. Store air-tight and dark but do not freeze.

Also, you need to drink espressos periodically (no milk) in order to taste the quality of your beans and ensure grind is optimal.

We buy spectacular beans (best in the state IMHO) at a fanatical roastery a couple miles away every 10 days or so. No comparison to anything from a big box store. $16-20/bag.

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KlangFoolPosts: 27078Joined: Sat Oct 11, 2008 12:35 pm

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Post by KlangFool » Thu Oct 13, 2022 5:44 pm

Vulcan wrote: ↑Thu Oct 13, 2022 1:14 pm

rooms222 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 18, 2021 10:58 am We have found the Lavazza beans do not get a bitter, old taste when opened as quickly as random brands at Costco. We don't mind the adventure of trying an unknown brand at $4.97/32 ounces at Costco, but noticed that that is too much coffee once opened, even putting in an "airtight" container.

For best espresso, coffee, once opened, needs to be frozen or used within days (and within minutes of grinding).

Lavazza is good coffee (I like their Super Crema), and I gave up on any non-Italian beans.

But in my book the best Italian espresso blend is Musetti Cremissimo.

https://musetti.us/library/blends/cremissimo/

It can be found on Amazon occasionally. It's more expensive than Lavazza, but it's a whole different level.

Here is my parting shot:

Best non oily coffee beans for superautomatic

Vulcan,

1) I assume that you know why the Italian espresso blend is better. They blend Robusta coffee bean with Arabica coffee bean to provide better crema. 100% Arabica bean does not produce the same result.

2) I do not drink expresso. But, I home roast coffee bean. I gave some of my freshly home roasted coffee bean to my expresso drinking friend. He told me that it gives the most crema that he had seen so far.

What coffee beans are the least oily?

At a Glance: Our Top 5 Picks for Best Non-Oily Coffee Beans.
Lavazza's Super Crema Whole Bean Coffee BlendOur Top Choice..
Camano Island Coffee Roasters' Sumatra Dark Roast..
Miscela D'Oro's Gran Crema Espresso Beans..
Filicori Zecchini's Forte Arabic And Robusta Blend..
Raven's Brew's Deadman's Reach..

What beans are used in super automatic?

The Best Coffee Beans for Super-Automatic Espresso Machines Some of our favorite picks for super-automatic espresso machines include Whole Latte Love Crema Wave, Gaggia 100% Arabica, Maromas Orphea, Carraro Dolci Arabica, and Lavazza Super Crema.

How can you tell if coffee beans are oily?

The darker the roast, the more surface oil the bean will have. Therefore, very dark roasts will be extremely oily. In fact, they will look and feel greasy.

Which Lavazza for Superautomatic?

Lavazza Super Crema Medium Roast Lavazza Super Crema Whole Bean Coffee Blend, Medium Roast is perfect for espresso machines.